Friday, August 17, 2007

Real science - thank you Kent Hovind!

Here is what the Bible and science says about evolution and here is the evidence of creation:

I believe that the Bible is the infallible Word of God. I believe it from cover to cover. In 2 Timothy 3:16, it says, “ALL SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, & is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

The Bible says, in Genesis, “In the Beginning….” When was the beginning? How old is the earth anyways? This is an extremely important question. This question that I will be dealing with is a question that has caused many people not believe in Gods word. So I find it a very important question to deal with. This is the heart of the battle.

In Colossians 1:16a it says, “For by Him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in Heaven, & that are in the earth…” Since Jesus created everything, He probably knows how old it is. Jesus said in Mathew 19:4, “And he answered & said unto them, Have you not read, that He which made them in the beginning made them male & female.”

In Mark 10:6, “From the beginning of the creation, God made them male & female.” The Bible says that death came by sin, (Romans 5:12 & 1 Corinthians 15:21-22), By man, came all sin & in Adam all die. Adam was the 1st man according to the Bible, that is a very clear teaching of the bible. The Bible teaches that the Earth is about 6000 years old.

This is the basic rundown of the Biblical view of things: The Bible teaches that God created the earth about 6000 years ago. Forty-four hundred years ago there was a flood. Two-thousand years ago Jesus came & died on a cross & rose from the dead. And here we are today waiting for the Lord to come back in about 5 minutes!!! That is the basic teaching of the Word of God. This is the biblical view of creation.

If you gave the bible to 5000 people who had never read the bible before & you told them to actually read it & tell us what it says, they would all come up with this same historical timeline. That is the obvious teaching of the bible. We have people who teach that the earth is billions of years old & the Bible teaches that the earth is 6000 years old. Who is right?

The textbooks in the schools tell people that 20 billion years ago there was a big bang. Four point six billion years ago the earth cooled down & developed a hard rocky crust. Then it rained on the rocks for millions of years & turned it into soup. The soup came alive about 3 billion years ago. Then the 1st life form found somebody to marry…blah, blah, blah, & something to eat & then very slowly evolved into what we see today.

The skeptics will say, “Adam & Eve had Cain & Abel, Cain then killed Abel, who did Adams sons marry?” They think, we got you now…Hahaha….

But if you believe in evolution, your problem is worse than mine. The evolutionist believe that 4.6 billion years ago that the earth cooled down. Then it rained on the rocks & turned them into soup. Then the 1st living organisms appeared. They use that word a lot, “APPEARED” Things just appear. They say, “swirling around in the waters of the ocean is a bubbling broth of complex chemicals…progress from a complex chemical soup to a living organism is very slow…”

In the college science book called, “Biology, The Unity & Diversity of Life” it says, “The first self-replicating systems must have emerged in this organic soup.”

Now if you believe in evolution, then you have to get two cells to evolve. They have to be of the opposite sex. They have to evolve in the same place at the same time in history. It’s a big world you know. Cells are kind of small….(they have to find each other). There are a lot of problems that you have to explain that I don’t.

I don’t have a problem because in Genesis 5:4 it tells us that Adam live another 800 years or so & had sons & daughters. How many kids could you have in 800 years?

So in the 1st generation they married sisters.

1. There is no choice, (no one would have thought that it was wrong at that time).
2. Who would you report them to? (They were the only people in the world).
3. There were no laws against it until 2500 years later when Moses gave the law. They didn’t need a law against that in the original creation because there were no deformed chromosomes. Everything about you is inherited. (If your parents don’t have kids, you wont either). Genetic similarity is not a problem in the 1st generations.

Okay, so when was the beginning? How old is the earth? The science books have brainwashed people to believe that the earth is billions of years old. Why do I care so much about the age of the earth?

1. The credibility of Genesis is at stake because Genesis teaches that the earth is about 6000 years old.
2. The credibility of Jesus is at stake. (Jesus cited Genesis 25 times), apparently Jesus believed it.
3. Nearly every book in the entire Bible refers to the book of Genesis.

How old is the earth? Let’s look at some scientific indicators. In the “Star Tribune Minneapolis, Minn. On July 24th 1999” it said, “Last weekend the world’s population topped 6 billion.”

Now if you don’t know how much a billion is (don’t worry because congress doesn’t know either), a billion is a lot. In 1985 there were 5 billion people on the earth. In 1800 there were about 1 billion people on the planet. Almost everyone agrees that there were about 1 billion people in 1800, it really isn’t disputed. Everyone also agrees that the population is growing rapidly.

(With all that said, the world is not over crowded. Did you know that all of the world’s population, all 6 billion people could fit inside the city limits of Jacksonville Florida, twice? That city has 25 billion square feet, obviously we all couldn’t survive there at once, but I just want to show you the size of our land).

At the time of Jesus there were about ¼ of a billion people on the earth. The population curve looks like it started about 4400 years ago. Well, that’s interesting, because the bible teaches that 6000 years ago God created the world. Forty-four hundred years ago there was a flood & only 8 people survived. Now if you start with 8 people having kids & grand-kids, you can easily get a population of 5-6 billion in a few thousand years.

If the earth is billions of years old & man has been here for 3 million years, then why aren’t there more people? Do you realize that in 3 million years the population would have grown to where we would have 150,000 people per square inch. That would be crowed. We have not been here for 3 million years.

Here is another fact. Galaxies are spinning but the stars in the middle are going faster than the ones on the outside. If they were billions of years old, they would not have the spiral shape to them. Spiral galaxies indicate that they are not billions of years old. They would have been spun smooth into one homogeneous mass. They would not have the spiral arms because the stars are moving at different speeds.

Textbooks say that Red Giant Stars evolve into white dwarfs over billions of years. But we know that the ancient Egyptians called Sirius a red star. (Look, I am using scientific facts that are not from the Bible! What? You mean there are other sources of evidence recorded than just what is recorded in the Bible? Yes, there is!!!)

“Egyptian hieroglyphs from 2000 B.C. described Sirius as red.”“Cicero, in 50 B.C. stated that Sirius was red.” “Seneca described Sirius as being redder than Mars.”“Ptolemy listed Sirius as one of the six red stars in 150 A.D.” Today Sirius is a white dwarf. This happened in less than 2000 years. It doesn’t take billions of years like the text books say.

Jupiter is cooling down. It is losing heat twice as fast as it gains it. You can’t keep losing heat, pretty soon it’s cooled off, right? If you found a cup of coffee on the table & I said don’t touch the coffee, it’s hot. You ask “Who’s is it?” I answer, “I don’t know? It has been sitting there for 400 years!” That would be kind of hard to believe, don’t you think? But people want me to believe that these planets are billions of years old & they are losing heat!!!

Saturn has rings around it, but the rings are moving away from the planet. The rings are unstable. They are less than 10,000 years old. These rings would have been gone after 10,000 years yet you want to tell me that it is billions of years old. If the universe is billions of years old, then why does Saturn still have rings?

Jupiter has a moon called Ganymede, but it is constantly losing heat. And Ganymede has a strong magnetic field which indicates that it can’t be billions of years old. “Magnetic Fields” are generated by the liquid motion of molten metal inside a body. Ganymede should have cooled solid billions of years ago. It is not billions of years old.

The moon is going around the earth. Did you know that as the moon goes around the earth it is slowly getting further away. We are slowly losing our moon. It’s only a few inches a year, no big deal. (There is nothing to worry about plus there is nothing we can do about it anyways). The moon gets further from the earth every year which means, that it use to be closer. If you start to bring the moon in closer to the earth, you start to create a problem because the moon causes the tides.

There is a law in physics known as the Inverse Square Law which says: “The force of attraction between two objects is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.” What that simply means is that if you “Half” the distance then you “Quadruple” the attraction. If you brought the moon in to 1/3 the distance, the force of the attraction between the two objects is 9 times greater. 1/3 inverted 3/1, 3 squared = 9 (1/3 flipped over & squared).

The moon tells us that it can’t be billions of years old because just a few billion years ago the moon would have been so close & the tides would have been so high that it would have drowned everything on earth twice a day. (And you can only drown comfortably once a day).

Outer space is full of dust. The scientists have known about dust in space for a long time. They have done all kinds of testing to see just how much dust is in space coming to the earth. When they were ready to land on the moon, they were very concerned of the dust in space because the moon runs into this dust. The moon doesn’t have any wind or water to mix it into the soil, so the dust just lands there & stays.

They calculated the dust to be pretty thick on the moon. The famous astronomer by the name of “Littleton” said in 1955, before they went to the moon. Littleton felt that x-rays & UV light striking exposed moon rocks “could during the age of the moon be sufficient to form a layer over it several miles deep.” (Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society of London Vol. 115. 1955 pp. 585-604). Isaac Asimov said, “I get a picture, therefore, of the 1st spaceship, picking out a nice level place for landing purposes, coming in slowly downward tail-first & sinking majestically out of sight.” (Isaac Asimov. Science Digest Ian 1959 P. 36). Again, this was in 1959 before man went to the moon.

Even in children books before they went to the moon it talked about the dust. In the children book “You WILL Go To the Moon” written before 1959 it said, “Boys & girls, the moon does not look like the earth. There are no trees, no lakes, no water. Just dust, dust, dust.

There is just deep, gray dust. Dust, dust, dust.”They were so concerned with landing on the moon that they put huge landing pads on the space craft to spread the weight out. They wanted to give it the snowshoe effect. The landing pads were added & the legs were lengthened because of the concerns over the predicted layer of dust. They actually sawed the ladder off. The ladder was 18 inches to short in anticipation of the thick dust layer. The guy had to jump down to the moon. He was concerned with ripping his suit. (Trust me, you don’t want to get a rip in you suit out there).

If you can get a hold of the 1st hour of conversation on the moon, you will hear them talking about, “the dust.” They were wondering where all the dust was. The man who built the backpack for the astronauts is now a pastor in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. He said, “I worked at NASA & I built the backpack. I was instructed to build it dust proof incase he sank into the dust.” They were still worried about the dust when they landed on the moon. But the dust wasn’t there.

So the Christians at NASA said to the evolutionist, “How old is the moon?” They said, “Oh, it’s billions of years old.” They said, “Then where is the dust?” The evolutionist didn’t say this, but I am sure they were thinking this, “I bet those Christians went up there & cleaned it just to make us look stupid!” No, we didn’t go up there & clean the moon.

I can tell you where the dust is. You see, the moon is not billions of years old. They left plates behind to collect dust. The accumulation of dust is much less than they thought. It is not an inch in 10,000 years. “Only 1/67th of the moon dust is from space*. The actual measured amount of dust turned out to be 2.7 inches per million years.” (In the beginning by Walt Brown p. 214 CSE $17.50 *the rest is kicked up lunar soil).

So the dust is a lot less than they thought, but that still works out to be 1,033 feet of dust in 4.6 billion years.

There is still a problem. The moon is not billions of years old.Comets are flying around through space & they are constantly losing material. The stuff flying off of the tail is the material that they are losing. They can’t keep losing & losing….eventually it is all gone. It’s kind of like your check book. If your outgo exceeds your income, Your upkeep will be your downfall. Comets have a life expectancy of less than 10,000 years (Prentice Hall Earth Science 1991 p. 73).

“In 1950, based on a study of the orbits of several long-period comets, the Dutch astronomer Jan Oort proposed that a great spherical shell of (Comets) existed at the remote frontiers of our solar system.” – Matson.

“Better statistics in more recent years have supported the existence of the Oort Cloud & put it at a distance of 50,000 AU (1.3 light-years).” – From Matson’s “answer” to the creationist young earth arguments.

Just incase you don’t know, one Astronomical Unit (AU), is the distance from the earth to the sun. It is 93,000,000 miles. It is a big number. This guy Matson says that this so-called “Oort cloud” is 50,000 AU away. There is a problem with this though.No one has ever seen the Oort Cloud. (Oort never saw the Oort Cloud). It turns out that it is based upon a mathematical goof.

“Oort proposed a cloud of comets surrounding the solar system based on mathematical errors.” – (See Raymond Littleton. “The Non-Existence of the Oort Commentary Shell.” Astrophysics & Space Science Vol. 31 December 1974. Pp. 385-401).

So this Oort Cloud does not exist. But this scoffer named Matson said, “Sorry fella's, but if you want to use this comet argument it is up to you to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Oort Cloud & other sources don’t exist!”

What? How are you going to prove the “Non-existence” of something? Prove to me that it is there, I don’t have to prove that it does not exist, you have to prove to me that it does exist. If you want to teach that the earth is billions of years old, then it is up to you to prove that it is. All I know is that we do have comets, they don’t last long. The Bible teaches that the earth is 6000 years old & it looks to me like it fits pretty well.

Psalm 39:3, “While I was MUSING the fire burned:”Psalm 143:5, “I remember the days of old; I meditate on all thy works; I MUSE on the work of thy hands.”

The word “Muse” is only used twice in the entire Bible. It literally means, “To Think.” We don’t take time to think anymore. English is an interesting language. The word, “Theist” is a person who believes in God. When you put the letter “A” in front of the word, it means, the opposite of.

An “Atheist” is a person who does not believe in God. The word “Muse” means to think. The word “Amuse” literally means to not think. They have whole parks where someone can go & pay to do that, they are called: “Amusement Parks.”

It says in Psalm 8:3, “When I consider the heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon & the stars, which thou has ordained;” Psalm 8:4, “What is man, that thou art mindful of him?” You can always tell when someone spends their time thinking & considering what God has done. They are not impressed with what man can do.

When you consider the heavens, it does not matter what man can do.How old is the earth? Well, the earth is like a big magnet & magnets lose their strength with time. The earth’s magnet is losing its strength continually. It is getting weaker & weaker, which means that it cannot be billions of years old & it means that carbon dating cannot work for more than a few thousand years. (If you desire, I will go into detail on why carbon dating can’t work, just let me know).

Some skeptics knew that the whole magnetic field was getting weaker & that it was a problem so they claimed that maybe the earth’s magnetic field is reversing. They went to the bottom of the mid-Atlantic ridge to try & find evidence that the magnetic field is reversing. The text books say that there are magnetic reversals in rocks on the ocean floor. They say that to answer the embarrassing problem of the declining strength of the magnetic field.

It has never been observed to reverse. It has only been observed to decline. For three-hundred years that is all that we have seen, it’s declining. There are no area’s of magnetic reversals. What happened is these people measured places of stronger & weaker magnetism. Somebody drew a line in the middle & said that anything lower than the halfway point is a reversal. But it isn’t, it’s a lower magnitude of the magnetic field. There are no magnetic reversals on the ocean floor.

The earth is spinning at about 1000 MPH at the equator. But the earth is slowing down. In 1990, they had to add a tick to the clock. It was off by a second. In the “Pensacola News Journal, 12/6/1990”, it said, “…regular clocks use days as a measure. Which are growing longer by a thousandth of a second or more daily as Earth’s rotation slows.”

“Earth’s Rotation is slowing down. To compensate for this lagging motion, June will be one second longer than normal. This ‘Leap Second’ announced by the International Earth Rotation Service in February, will keep calendar time in close alignment with international time.” – Astronomy Magazine, June 1992, p.24.

We have a leap second every year & a half now because the Earth is slowing down. (The earth is slowing down, which means that it use to go faster). If the Earth is only 6000 years old, then this is not a problem. The earth was going a little faster & Adam wouldn’t have even noticed it.

But you guys want me to believe that the earth is billions of years old. That creates a problem. If you go back a billion or two years & you add one thousandth of a second per day to the spin of the earth, then that means that the earth was going extremely fast. Your days & nights would be very quick. It would be day, night, day, night, day, night, every second. You would have to get up then go right back to bed & then get up & go right back to bed.

The winds would have been 5000 miles per hour due to the Corilolis effect. And you think that dinosaurs lived two hundred million years ago? I know what happened to them…..they flew off the earth. They would have had to at the speed that the earth would be going.

The Sahara Desert has a prevailing wind pattern. The wind almost always blows in the same direction. This creates a problem because the hot air off of the desert kills the trees on the edge & pretty soon that area becomes desert. This process is called “desertification.” The Sahara Desert is the largest desert in the world. It is 1300 miles from North to South & is growing 4 miles a year.

People are speeding up the process due to poor farming & the like, but even without that scenario, the desert would still grow. They just did a lengthy study on this & they concluded that the Sarah Desert is about 4000 years old. (See Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany, July 15, 1999 – Geophysical Research Letters).

Now that is pretty old, but I have a question for you? If the Earth is billions of years old, then why don’t we have an older desert? Why is the biggest desert in the world only 4000 years old?

I have a theory about that. I believe that about 6000 years ago God created the world, just like the bible says. Forty-four hundred years ago there was a flood. It is kind of hard to have a desert under a flood. You can’t have a desert until the flood waters go down. So I predict by what the bible says that the biggest desert should be less than 4400 years old!!

OH WOW, IT IS!!! Maybe the Bible is right after all.

Did you know that when they drill in the ground that sometimes they find oil? The oil is under incredible pressure, they can be up to 20,000 psi, (pounds per square inch). The guys who studied the rocks on top of the oil said that the rocks can only handle that pressure for 10,000 years or less.

So I have two questions them.
1. Where did the oil come from?
2. Why is it still under pressure?

Nearly all of scientist agree that oil comes from organisms that have been squished. “Oil & Gas are from organisms that once lived in the sea…changed by heat & pressure…into oil.” – (Holt General Science. 1988 p.294).

They can take a bunch a garbage in a science lab & squeeze it into oil in a few minutes. Under natural pressures, it can be done in 1000 years. They say that all the oil came from dinosaurs over an 80 million year period. I don’t think so. Here is my theory on where the oil came from.

I believe that about 6000 years ago, God created the heavens & the earth. 4400 years ago there was a flood. In that flood lots of critters & people drowned. They were buried by the sand, gravel, rocks, & mud. Well, that got pretty heavy after a while & it squished them into oil. So the oil that is down there is from the people & the animals that drowned in the flood.

(If you think about that, the next time you are at the gas station getting gas you can say to the gas…..”Goodbye Grandpa, you should have listened to Noah, he said it was going to rain.”)

In Denver Colorado they have the National Ice Core Laboratory. They have 10 ice core samples taken from a remote Antarctic glacier. These ice cores are resting in a giant freezers waiting to be tested. The freezer is 36 degrees below zero. They test the ice there to see how old it is.

They drill in Greenland & Antarctica & they bring back these ice cores. Well, these ice cores have what they call, “Annual Rings” on them. The deepest core can measure over 10,000 feet…& they say that based upon the annual rings that the ice is 135,000 years old. If you look at the core of the ice, you will see that it has dark & light lines on them.

They say, “In the summer, the top layer of snow melts & refreezes as clear ice, which shows up as the dark line. In the winter the snow packs & shows up as a white milky layer. So it shows summer, winter, summer, winter, & we can count 135,000 of them. How can you say the earth is only 6000 years old?”

But my question is, “Aren’t you assuming that those are annual rings?” You see, in 1942, in W.W.II, there was a plane that had to land in Greenland because it ran out of gas. Some guy decided that he was going to dig them out. When they found the airplane, it was under 263 feet of ice, in 48 years.

So take 48 years divided by 263 feet of ice is about 5.5 feet of ice per year. The biggest hole that those other guys drilled was about 10,000 feet. 10,000 divided by 5.5’ = 1824 years. Now the deeper you go, the more the layers get squished. Deeper ice is pressed into finer layers so 4400 years is a little more closer to the age of the ice. By the way, planes don’t sink in the ice due to pressure on the ice.

The plane is in Middlebrow, Kentucky. Bob Cardin is the guy who dug it out. His phone number is: (606) 248-1149. He said that he saw those annul rings. But he said that they are not annual rings, they are not summer, winter, summer winter, they are warm, cold, warm, cold. You can get 20 of those rings in one week.

Like I said before, there is so much evidence that backs up God’s Word, I am satisfied with the fact that God’s Word is absolutely true. Take for example Mississippi River.

The Mississippi River is deposits mud sediments at a rate of 80,000 tons per hour – day after day. (Prentice Hall General Science, 1992 p.145). The call it the “Muddy Mississippi”. All this mud dumps off in New Orleans, in the Gulf of Mexico. That delta is growing larger & larger & larger. Scientist studied the delta pretty carefully. They said that it took 30,000 years to accumulate the mud in the delta.

If that is the case, then I have a question. If the earth is billions of years old, then why isn’t the whole Gulf of Mexico full of mud right now? They say, “Well, it’s 30,000 years old, that proves that the bible is wrong because the bible says the earth is 6000 years old.”

Well, I have a theory about that. I believe that about 6000 years ago God created the earth, just like the Bible says. 4400 years ago there was a flood. As the flood water was running off, it filled the Gulf of Mexico with mud, not in 30,000 years, but in just a couple of years. All that mud washed out with the receding flood waters. It looks like it took 30,000 years, but they forgot the flood….it only took 4400 years.

In the book, “Allyn and Bacon Biology, 1977, p. 180”, they have a picture of the oldest tree in the entire world. This tree is in Central California & is called the “Bristlecone Pine”. It is 4300 years old. They call it the worlds oldest living organism. That is a pretty old tree. But I have a question. If the earth is billions of years old, then why don’t we have an older tree some place? Why is the oldest tree in the entire world 4300 years old?

Well, I have a theory about that. I believe that about 6000 years ago God created everything, just like the bible says. Then about 4400 years ago there was a flood. So the oldest tree in the world should be less than 4400 years old.

WILL YOU LOOK AT THAT, WOW…..IT IS!!!

Did you know that the largest Coral Reef is in Australia. It is called, “The Great Barrier Reef”. During W.W.II., some of the reef was destroyed by the ships & bombs & anchors, & other things like that. So the environmentalist went out there to see how fast it grows back.. They studied it & watched it grow for 20 years….(it was a government project).After watching the reef grow for 20 years, they came to the conclusion that the Great Barrier Reef is less than 4200 years old. That is pretty old.

Umm, but I have a question. If the earth is billions of years old, why don’t we have a bigger reef some place? Why is the biggest reef less than 4200 years old? Well, I have a theory about that. I bet you know what it is don’t you….

In the science book, “Holt Earth Science, 1989, p.279”, it says, “The rocky ledge above Niagara Falls has been eroding for nearly 9,900 years”. How do they know that? Well, the rocks are breaking off of the edge. Niagara Falls is eating it’s way south. It’s eroding. The Canadian’s built a concrete wall on there side to make sure that it erodes on American soil. (They really did).

The rocks are breaking off of the edge & the water fall is moving backwards. All waterfalls do this. The eat their way backwards, depending on how hard the rock is. Niagara Falls is moving backwards 4.7 feet a year. “Crest lines showing recession of Horseshoe Falls since 1764. 865 feet in 185 years is approximately 4.7 feet per year”. – (Source: Niagara Falls Museum Guide).

The water goes over the fall into a big gorge, called the “Niagara Gorge” or the “Niagara Canyon”. The Niagara Canyon is 7 ½ miles long. “A gorge about 7 ½ miles long runs just below Niagara Falls. A simple calculation shows that it has been 9900 years…” – (Holt Earth Science 1984, p. 284).

Well, I have a question then. Niagara Falls used to be near Lake Ontario. If Niagara Falls is billions of years old or even millions of years old, then why isn’t back to Lake Erie right now? Well, I have a theory about that.

I believe that about 6000 years ago, God created the earth. 4400 years ago there was a flood. As the water was running off, about half that gorge ran off in the 1st couple of months to a year or so. How is that possible? Because in the time of the flood there was a lot more water running through soft dirt, not hard rock. So it looks like it took 9900 years, but they forgot the flood.

Did you know that when it rains, 30% of the water runs into the oceans. Bringing with it, mineral salts. “Oceans today are 3.6% salt” – (Hole Biology 1994, p.225). The oceans are getting saltier everyday. They could have done that in less than 5000 years. If the earth is billions of years old, then why aren’t the oceans saltier like the Dead Sea or the Great Salt Lake? Why is it only 3.6%?

A guy was in a debate once & a skeptic said, “Can you please answer a question for me? You believe that there was a world wide flood?” Yes I do. So the skeptic said, “How did the fresh water fish survive?” The speaker said, “Sir, aren’t you assuming that the flood was salt water?” The skeptic said, “Well, the ocean is salt water”. The speaker replied, “Yes it is, today. But it has been getting saltier everyday, so I think that during the flood, that it was all fresh water.”

So the skeptic answered & said, “Well then, how did the salt water fish survive?” The speaker answered and said, “Well, there weren’t any.” The skeptic said, “The ocean is full of salt water animals.” The speaker said, “Well, yeah, it is today, but it has gradually gotten saltier & many of the animals have had to learn to adapt salt water….or don’t live there. Today we have fresh water alligators & salt water alligators. They probably had a common ancestor……an alligator.”

The skeptic said, “Well, that’s evolution”. The speaker answered & said, “Common Sir, going from a fresh water alligator to a salt water alligator is a minor change compared to the evolution myth. You see, you teach that they change from a rock to an alligator. That would be a major change.”

So everyone who rejects the God of the bible has to come up with another solution and the problem is that they cannot. They create these theories that do not hold any water.